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hey everyone welcome to your fab live

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stream today's guest and also one of the

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ozark mountain ufo conference

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speakers this year is going to be thomas

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fusco

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and

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you will be able to actually see thomas

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fusco and many of the other speakers in

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person as far as i know everything is

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still on track for in person no

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restrictions conference so i'm hoping

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you'll be able to join us it's april 8th

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till 10th in eureka springs arkansas

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and um

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you uh you can buy the tickets actually

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uh right now they're available uh on the

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website uh the link it's in description

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below and um you should be

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able to

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just simply scroll down click on the

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link and you'll you'll see the different

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ticket availability

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you can also stream it live that's also

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an option for those that still don't

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want to

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i guess get out of the house but anyway

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we have in the description also in

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description below i have thomas's

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website where you can find out more

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information about him uh uh read um

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additional information that he has on on

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this site and contact them there as well

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for any follow-up questions you might

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have um amazon links and barnes and

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noble links for his uh book uh beyond

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the cosmic veil is also in the

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description so as always with every

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guest i have those available i hope you

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certainly take advantage of that

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so what i've been doing and up until

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march 9th every single video that i come

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weekly or however many to happen to be

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leading all the way up till march 9th

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if you comment and like the video and in

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the description

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along with your comment put a hashtag

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ozark2022 um in the in the comments

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later on i will be then randomly uh

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a winner to win

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a pair of tickets for the ozark

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conference so it's simply

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two tickets for you and a friend or

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whoever else you would like to take with

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you if you're interested if you are not

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sure that you might win if you don't uh

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want to take any chances or usually not

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lucky in those kind of things uh you can

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just go straight to the site and

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purchase them today so

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for any questions in the chat whether

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it's on youtube or in

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on twitch if you simply put three

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asterisks before the question that will

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you can also join the uh the group which

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is on telegram it's a voice chat group

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that's going on right now and it's

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audio only and you you will be able to

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join that group simply raise your hand

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a person raising their hand and that

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and then come q a time you will be

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able to ask thomas a question directly

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so with that out of the way i'm hoping

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that uh

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seeking truth one hundred percent just

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all lowercase uh because i'm using a

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program that picks that up so if you

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spelled exactly the way i will be

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searching for so you can just copy that

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unmute thomas

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and uh let me let me bring him in thomas

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welcome how are you

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hey pretty good uh

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thanks for having me on

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well i'm i'm glad we're able to to uh do

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this again um i know we did a

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the description below for the first part

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and i wasn't sure exactly what to call

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to call this so i was like why not

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behind the cosmic veil part two

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and so um i figured we'll just uh

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take it take off from here then

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maybe for those new listeners if you can

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go a little bit into your background

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information how everything got started

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for you and then we'll take it from

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and and first i just want to

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let your audience know that the

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lack of a video feed on me is on my end

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i can't see any of the chat room

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i'll relay them to you i'll only pick

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for a good time call tom right right

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anyway uh

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a very long time ago

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uh some people like to call them psychic

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that term carries a little bit too much

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but i had some several experiences that

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caused me to seriously call into

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reality that was caught taught to me in

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so people are very uncomfortable with it

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paranormal testing equipment based on my

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it makes predictions

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the world is going to end tomorrow or

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one of the predictions my theory makes

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is that if it is correct

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telescopes further out they look the

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and see already people are like oh my

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another prediction that the theory makes

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at the emergence

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there would also be an emergence of a

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slightly

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different gravitational field

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that would be distinct from the

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gravitational field of the earth

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and this is one of the things that this

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person

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so that's just a

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so regarding

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so let's say

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you know especially like what you you

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were saying that this this person was

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using your examples to

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um you know build this device for

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paranormal use or

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for basically would it be a

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uh

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would it be specifically for ghost

313
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hunting you're asking

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or would you know what i meant like

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would it be demeaning to say that it's

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ghost hunting because you know we always

317
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want to use some because ghost hunting

318
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nowadays is always kind of looked at as

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a joke that's why i'm i'm asking you

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before i use the word but then again i

321
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just used it anyway

322
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i understand what you're saying well the

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reason just real quick uh the reason why

324
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i was asking is that for example just

325
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recently i was watching something with

326
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demi lovato and she has this some kind

327
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of counter geiger counter that uh

328
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blinks if there's i think it's uh

329
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electromagnetic fields um you know and

330
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she's asking questions and the whole

331
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thing was just basically made a whole

332
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joke of not necessarily that they were

333
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but when you're observing this it's like

334
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they're making it look silly you know

335
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when this could seriously

336
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be researched you know with some um you

337
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know well-built uh equipment and and

338
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openness to to certain understandings

339
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regarding you know our universe so

340
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what i'm saying is that um

341
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these you know these different you know

342
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these different devices can they be

343
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built to the sense of using your theory

344
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to to really give the mainstream science

345
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you know a run for the money to where

346
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they saw looking at it to her oh maybe

347
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this is something we should consider you

348
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know or would they still just scoff at

349
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it

350
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i think they just

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shrugged their shoulders and scratched

352
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their heads

353
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they're not quite sure what to do with

354
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it

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because really

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what i work

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has

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accepted

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the

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body of paranormal observations

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as valid

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observations in the physical universe

363
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in other words i'm not out there trying

364
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to prove the existence of ghosts

365
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i mean they talked about them as far

366
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back as in the bible

367
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[Music]

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i am working under the premise

369
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that i accept

370
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the paranormal effect

371
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so the question is uh not ghost hunting

372
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uh

373
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and one of the things i talk about with

374
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that uh

375
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adnan is the

376
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uh uh the idea that

377
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uh many people in the paranormal

378
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community they want to experience it

379
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:46,560
uh and they wanna a lot of them wanna

380
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talk to dead aunt mary

381
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you know

382
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understanding that dead aunt mary never

383
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told anybody anything of any

384
00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,959
significance anyway

385
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:01,920
uh

386
00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,520
ghosts or spooks or spirits or whatever

387
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:09,919
you want to call them has ever revealed

388
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anything

389
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,160
you know or earth-shattering about

390
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you know the nature of reality or even

391
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realm that they live in

392
00:17:24,549 --> 00:17:22,319
but it's just the idea

393
00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:24,559
of talking to dead aunt mary finding

394
00:17:29,790 --> 00:17:26,959
dead aunt mary and i think everybody

395
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understands the metaphor that i'm using

396
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[Music]

397
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so what they're trying to do

398
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is from an investigative point of view

399
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is

400
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what we would call like say in a con

401
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:46,880
a police department we would call it

402
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:48,720
the criminology

403
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:51,039
unit

404
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where they're concerned about the

405
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:55,039
criminal the perpetrator

406
00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:56,720
who's doing it

407
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you know

408
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[Music]

409
00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:02,240
why are they doing it uh

410
00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,919
you know all those kinds of questions

411
00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:05,919
that have to do with

412
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:07,840
the perpetrator

413
00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:13,830
you know let somebody else worry about

414
00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:15,760
the motivations of

415
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why these people are these ghosts or

416
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whatever they are or what they're

417
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,520
talking about or or

418
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,039
you know all those kinds of things

419
00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:25,360
there's a million people that have been

420
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,480
involved over decades even centuries

421
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,039
uh in that question

422
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,760
you know i want to know

423
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:35,600
the nature

424
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:38,240
of let's say if it's a murder you know

425
00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:41,200
and the perpetrator uses a gun

426
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:44,240
i want to learn about the gun

427
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:47,120
i want to know exactly what that gun is

428
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:49,360
how it works

429
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,720
how it does

430
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:52,880
how it causes the effect of killing

431
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:54,960
someone so to speak

432
00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:57,200
i'm in the forensics i want to look at

433
00:19:01,830 --> 00:18:59,760
the physical evidence

434
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:01,840
and i want to look at that evidence to

435
00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:07,039
tell me something about physical reality

436
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,440
in which those events are operating

437
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,760
that's a very very

438
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um you know

439
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:19,919
to coin a a a a a word from uh ufology

440
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,720
it's very alien

441
00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:25,360
to these fields

442
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,480
uh

443
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,640
they don't think about that it's too

444
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hard

445
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in order to even figure out what's going

446
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:40,710
i guess

447
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:42,960
one of the researchers uh some years

448
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,919
back

449
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,840
uh in the paranormal field that made a

450
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,760
lot of progress with that was david

451
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:49,440
roundtree

452
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and i know he became quite a

453
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,760
controversial figure

454
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but

455
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he

456
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actually

457
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recorded

458
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at the at the sites of paranormal

459
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activity

460
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that my

461
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,159
theoretical model would predict

462
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uh one of the things for example was

463
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that the

464
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the model predicts

465
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that

466
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evps

467
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were electromagnetic in nature

468
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:25,520
and that they would actually be able to

469
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be recorded in inside of a vacuum

470
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because they were not being propagated

471
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acoustically they were being propagated

472
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electromagnetically

473
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and that's just one example of the of an

474
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experiment that actually

475
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proved the predictions of the field

476
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i i hope that kind of answers what

477
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,640
you're

478
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:52,559
what you were asking well it does and

479
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now brings me to the to the next

480
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,159
question so

481
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:58,400
can you maybe speak a little bit on what

482
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,559
what is your take on this is this uh

483
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:02,880
actually another consciousness

484
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,440
uh trying to communicate in some way and

485
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,919
we're just trying to record it or is it

486
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:10,400
like another property of of the of

487
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,480
existence uh i guess for like a better

488
00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:13,679
word

489
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:16,640
yeah and i think that what you're asking

490
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:17,520
is

491
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and when you're talking about a

492
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consciousness or

493
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:25,840
you know uh entities trying to

494
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communicate or whatever

495
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,919
this is the normal

496
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:33,280
thinking

497
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,120
uh and i i don't mean about the

498
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,960
specifics what i mean is what you're

499
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:38,960
actually asking about

500
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,520
is the criminology

501
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,440
who done it

502
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:45,520
who is it that done it

503
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,880
why are they why did they do it

504
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,640
uh

505
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:52,559
you know so it's a very common way of

506
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,240
looking at it me i've kind of

507
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:58,799
stood back from that

508
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,919
uh and say look i i

509
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,559
i don't i'm not going to

510
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,640
address the fact of who might be

511
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involved

512
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:10,480
uh whether these

513
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,120
you know these these

514
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:15,600
consciousnesses or or

515
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,919
personalities or whatever you call them

516
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,679
spirits whatever

517
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,880
uh

518
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:23,039
who they are

519
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:24,000
uh

520
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,679
you know there's a lot of

521
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:27,679
christians the christian community

522
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,640
thinks that it's demonic

523
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:33,440
well i don't argue with that

524
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,190
but what i want to focus on

525
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:41,600
and my theory

526
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,080
is what is often

527
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,799
disregarded both the paranormal and the

528
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:48,720
ufology

529
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,919
and by the way adnan we ought to yeah

530
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:53,360
inform your

531
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,950
they're the reason why i'm talking about

532
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,919
paranormal phenomena

533
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,880
on a

534
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,000
[Music]

535
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,390
conference or or stage so to speaker or

536
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:11,840
like tonight

537
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,240
is that i believe that there is a very

538
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:16,960
very strong connection

539
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:21,520
between paranormal phenomena and ufology

540
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,559
much stronger than what's normally uh uh

541
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,159
thought about

542
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:27,840
uh

543
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,480
adnan my study

544
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:40,080
is focused

545
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:47,909
now by information

546
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,559
i'm talking about the the physics

547
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:52,960
understanding of information

548
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,880
not the common

549
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:56,960
colloquially understanding

550
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,279
of it um

551
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,360
oftentimes science

552
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,799
will use the same words that we use in

553
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:06,480
common language but they'll mean

554
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,390
or or something significantly different

555
00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:15,039
than how it's used in common language

556
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,270
information is one of these things

557
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:20,400
[Music]

558
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,640
information from a scientific point of

559
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:23,760
view

560
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:25,919
is basically

561
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,679
the how would you say it the blueprint

562
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,480
the

563
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:32,480
formula

564
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:35,840
from which matter and energy

565
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:39,760
or mass and energy is assembled

566
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,640
uh we have a today

567
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,559
everybody remembers in school being

568
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:46,960
taught you know matter and energy can

569
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,400
either be created nor destroyed

570
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,240
uh

571
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,320
you know and they're the and that's

572
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:56,720
derived from the equivalency

573
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:59,840
uh formula of albert einstein equals m c

574
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,950
but over the last several decades we've

575
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,279
also developed

576
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:08,720
a

577
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:18,720
itself

578
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:25,190
one of the problems that they have with

579
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:27,120
uh

580
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,679
with the everybody's heard of stephen

581
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:31,279
hawking

582
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:39,919
of black holes

583
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,679
information is destroyed

584
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,000
when it enters into a black hole and

585
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,559
that violates the laws and principles of

586
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,760
what we

587
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:51,600
currently understand except about the

588
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,830
so when we're talking about something

589
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,279
that you know

590
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:05,029
some entity that's trying to communicate

591
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:06,159
to us

592
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:09,600
via whatever you know whether it's

593
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:10,400
you know

594
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,919
in a audible voice or electromagnetic

595
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,200
voice or

596
00:26:25,950 --> 00:26:21,990
my pursuit my focus is this

597
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:25,960
that verbalization whatever it is adnan

598
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,630
it is made from information

599
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:36,640
just like we can have a computer hard

600
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,919
drive and open up a file

601
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,400
and that digital information let's say

602
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,039
it's a it's a song that you want to play

603
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,039
and that digital information on your

604
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:51,039
hard drive is converted

605
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:55,120
by your computer to an analog

606
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,240
sound

607
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:57,600
wave

608
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,919
where you hear with your analog here

609
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,880
ears

610
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,240
the music

611
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,799
uh that was recorded in the file but

612
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:06,559
that music occur

613
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,080
exists in a form of information

614
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,640
everything in reality everything in

615
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,799
physical reality

616
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:16,320
is

617
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:25,840
paranormal

618
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,720
field almost completely ignores

619
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,880
they don't even think about that they

620
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,720
think about who's talking oh wait a

621
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,559
minute

622
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,520
how did that speech

623
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,320
materialize in the physical world

624
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,640
from information they're not thinking

625
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:46,840
about the information

626
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,039
um ufology even although to a greater

627
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,200
extent they do consider information a

628
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,880
little bit more

629
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:56,080
uh

630
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,760
they still don't

631
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:00,240
judge the importance of it

632
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,159
so i'm not so much concerned

633
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,559
if there's an entity

634
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,640
that is trying to communicate into our

635
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,799
physical world

636
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:13,200
i'm concerned with

637
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:14,559
what that

638
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,269
that contains that communication

639
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,799
how that is brought forth into our

640
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:26,480
physical world

641
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,880
and emerges as something analog

642
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:33,039
once it materializes in the physical

643
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:33,919
world

644
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,320
that is the key

645
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,039
to understanding paranormal phenomena

646
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:41,039
and that's the kind of research that

647
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,640
i've worked on and

648
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,080
the kind of

649
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:47,279
ideas and concepts that my theory

650
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,909
thomas does that also mean that there's

651
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,279
information

652
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:57,840
out there that we would not recognize or

653
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,799
anything that that we can that we can

654
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,240
i guess observe

655
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:04,159
that it's probably just happening right

656
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,279
now but

657
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,520
because of we only know analog and even

658
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,760
then we only know certain patterns for

659
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,080
us to say okay this is something i can i

660
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,159
can recognize or

661
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:17,279
would it just be white noise

662
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:23,450
in order to

663
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:24,559
[Music]

664
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:31,750
body of data body of information

665
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,919
collection of information whatever you

666
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,880
want to

667
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,039
uh call it

668
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,360
from a physical point of view we must

669
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:41,200
first be able to make a physical

670
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,909
if we cannot make a physical observation

671
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,399
then there really is no way that we can

672
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:52,640
determine

673
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,320
what collection of information

674
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:59,279
would be manifesting that observation so

675
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,320
yeah

676
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:02,640
um

677
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:06,000
let's say uh a space-time it's a very

678
00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:13,909
the actual substance of it einstein

679
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,840
taught us that space-time is a

680
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,960
substantive field

681
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:21,440
that word is very important

682
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,080
as opposed to the old uh

683
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,039
physics of isaac newton

684
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,000
that said space was an empty void it was

685
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:31,840
a nothingness

686
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:32,640
it

687
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,600
nothing

688
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,880
space was occupied

689
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,440
by matter

690
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,399
that moved through time

691
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,880
and that was the newtonian model

692
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,799
einstein said that

693
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:52,720
space-time is no it's actually a

694
00:30:57,530 --> 00:30:54,880
substantive field it's actually a

695
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,540
physical substance

696
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,279
[Music]

697
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:02,000
but it's something that we cannot

698
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,519
directly observe

699
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:08,320
the all that we can observe

700
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:15,509
so for example we know the space time is

701
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,960
curved

702
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:19,760
around all bodies especially like big

703
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:22,559
ones like planets and stars we know the

704
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,000
space time bends around it

705
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:29,200
we are able to mathematically compute

706
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,039
what those bends are which is how we

707
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:36,240
launch satellites into space

708
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:40,720
which is how we lost launched apollo

709
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:44,480
when we had apollo orbit the earth

710
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,240
several times and then used a slingshot

711
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:49,279
effect

712
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,159
you know

713
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,760
slinging off the curved face of space

714
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:55,919
surrounding the earth

715
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,880
to get it to propel towards the moon

716
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,559
so no

717
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:03,600
we can't

718
00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:05,840
directly observe all

719
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:07,000
uh

720
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,399
materializations of information

721
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,200
so we have to assume that there's

722
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,120
information out there that we simply

723
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,950
just like dark matter

724
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,120
we can't observe it

725
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,120
it's actually a hypothetical substance a

726
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:27,360
lot of physicists like to talk to the

727
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,000
general public as if dark matter is a

728
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,720
foregone conclusion but one of the dirty

729
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:34,240
little secrets

730
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:35,360
is that

731
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,519
nobody knows what dark matter is

732
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:42,320
nobody has been able to demonstrate the

733
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,200
existence of dark matter every kind of

734
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,039
an experiment

735
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:48,720
that

736
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:51,279
was designed to detect dark matter has

737
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,279
come up empty we don't even know what it

738
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,279
what it is

739
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:57,519
all we know

740
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:01,360
is that when we make observations

741
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:05,440
there's about 85 to 90 percent

742
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:09,120
more gravitational effect that we can

743
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,039
observe

744
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,640
then there is

745
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,880
visible mass

746
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,640
to explain it

747
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:19,679
the conventional you know feeling mean

748
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,159
you know gravity is generated by mass

749
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:27,120
so if we observe

750
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,919
you know x x amount of gravitational

751
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:32,559
effect we need

752
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:34,880
to observe

753
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,440
a proportionate matter or an

754
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:39,679
apportionate amount of

755
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,230
to account for the gravitational effect

756
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:47,760
unfortunately we're

757
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:50,399
invisible matter we're about 90 percent

758
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:57,110
so there's an effect for which we don't

759
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:58,159
have any

760
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:01,440
uh in conventional physics any ready

761
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,159
uh

762
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,880
a ready explanation

763
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,880
for what information might be actually

764
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,879
causing that

765
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:09,839
uh

766
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:12,320
you folks you have to forgive me but

767
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:19,750
my work is not

768
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:25,359
and the areas that i

769
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,720
my work

770
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,079
touches on

771
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,560
are not common knowledge so you'll have

772
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:32,399
to forgive me that

773
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,200
when i'm asked a question sometimes

774
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,280
it's going to take a few minutes for me

775
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:39,839
to give the background so that the

776
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:43,040
answer that i'm giving even makes sense

777
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,629
well so uh thomas earlier you alluded to

778
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:51,919
a strong connection between the

779
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,720
paranormal and ufos could you maybe uh

780
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,200
please go a little bit into that

781
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,119
yeah let's let's talk about that a

782
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:01,200
little bit

783
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:04,480
because that's really uh uh you know

784
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,200
why i'm speaking at a ufo conference

785
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:11,440
well just to clarify too this conference

786
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,119
just because it's a ufo conference i

787
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,200
mean covering a wide variety of subjects

788
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,520
so it's not a

789
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,320
just a strictly ufo all the time the

790
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,800
majority of speakers are but it's not

791
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:24,800
uncommon to hear people speak on

792
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,520
different subjects

793
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:28,960
that's great

794
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,560
uh and yeah i know that uh the uh

795
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,800
oh what's the name of your publisher

796
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,000
again

797
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,640
uh ozark mountain publishing

798
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,079
that's it

799
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:42,800
uh yeah they they uh they publish a

800
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,520
variety of works under what i call the

801
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,760
alternative thought genre

802
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,839
uh so you're right yeah

803
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:52,320
it's quite a broad uh uh

804
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:53,119
uh

805
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,560
all right let's talk about paranormal

806
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,359
phenomena for a minute

807
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:03,119
um

808
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:07,440
one of the the uh premises of my theory

809
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,680
is that all paranormal phenomena

810
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:13,680
are the result

811
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:16,720
of the same kind of physical mechanisms

812
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,040
underlying what i call paranormal

813
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,720
mechanics

814
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,040
underlying these phenomena in other

815
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:25,200
words adnan when you when you

816
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:28,560
look into paranormal phenomena

817
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:29,920
and

818
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,400
what is observed at paranormally active

819
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,430
you get what i call sort of a catalog

820
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,630
in other words you have different

821
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,079
phenomena

822
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:44,320
uh you have

823
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,200
uh mysterious sounds

824
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:49,280
disembodied voices

825
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:52,400
things that move by themselves

826
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:55,520
people feel breezes

827
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:58,560
where there's no doors and windows open

828
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,320
people see visible phenomena manifesting

829
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,720
they have been able to detect

830
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,280
heat signatures

831
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:09,359
and they've also been able to detect and

832
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,870
uh disembodied voices

833
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,750
electromagnetic phenomena

834
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,760
evps

835
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:28,240
and so on if you kept listing all the

836
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,079
things adenine that are

837
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:33,920
observed at paranormally active sites

838
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,200
you would eventually get a catalog

839
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,320
of all these phenomena

840
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,160
uh

841
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,410
and

842
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,880
[Music]

843
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,880
one of the things one of the premises

844
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,320
that my theory

845
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:49,920
puts forth

846
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,040
is that all these phenomena must be

847
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:55,040
occurring

848
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,000
according to the same underlying

849
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,400
mechanics that we poorly understand

850
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,829
uh mechanics being used once again folks

851
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,839
it's a

852
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,440
it it's it's something that gets

853
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,160
hijacked by science and used

854
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,640
the word mechanics is used by science in

855
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,280
its own way not in a normal way like

856
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:20,000
your mechanic under the hood of your car

857
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,119
uh

858
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,160
like when we talk about quantum

859
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,520
phenomena

860
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,839
and how it works we talk about quantum

861
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,160
mechanics

862
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,560
so that's what i mean there's a there's

863
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,800
there's an underlying set of paranormal

864
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:37,520
mechanics that are responsible for all

865
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,750
now

866
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:44,880
how does that relate to ufos

867
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,280
well let's take a look at ufo phenomena

868
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:50,640
and see if we can find some

869
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,119
relationships

870
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:56,480
number one we know one real quick

871
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:58,960
that things move

872
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:01,839
according to no visible means of

873
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,510
that happens in both ufology and

874
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:10,640
paranormal phenomena

875
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,800
we find a relationship

876
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,480
that in

877
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:17,280
close proximity

878
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:21,280
to ufo manifestations

879
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,200
electronic equipment malfunctions

880
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:27,680
i mean that's pretty classic for ufology

881
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,480
isn't it adnan

882
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:32,960
uh yeah battery drainage which is almost

883
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:35,359
uh similar to what people uh during

884
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,480
paranormal stuff have reported as well

885
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:39,760
yeah

886
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:40,640
now

887
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,359
car doesn't start when the ufo's

888
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,440
overhead or something like that

889
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,599
here's where i talk about the paranormal

890
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,640
field

891
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,720
making big mistakes

892
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:55,200
when they're focusing always on the the

893
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,640
perpetrator

894
00:40:00,990 --> 00:39:58,560
who done it who done it

895
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:01,000
so in the paranormal field they

896
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,240
mistakenly have concluded

897
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,200
that it is a spirit that is draining

898
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:09,599
power from their electrical equipment to

899
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:15,430
we don't have that problem in ufology

900
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,640
no one believes that the ufo is draining

901
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:20,880
electricity from your car battery in

902
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,150
so there's an example right there where

903
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:31,200
the criminology or the perpetrator

904
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,760
focusing on that

905
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:35,760
creates a

906
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:36,839
mental

907
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,319
block you know almost like a rational

908
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,400
disorder

909
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,839
because you're focused on the wrong

910
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:45,920
things it's like thinking about

911
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,400
you know zeus is responsible for hurling

912
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:50,960
lightning bolts from the sky

913
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,240
uh you get into some some incorrect

914
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:55,520
assumptions

915
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,960
but anyway that's one connection

916
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:00,720
the electric the electromagnetic

917
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,240
phenomena

918
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,319
uh the

919
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,960
fact that ufos can

920
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:09,200
travel

921
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,800
without any means of propulsion

922
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,880
just like things move around at

923
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:17,680
paranormally active sites doors open and

924
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:20,720
close things fly across a room with no

925
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,160
visible means of propulsion

926
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,910
let's see what's it what's another

927
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,240
connection there there's a bunch of them

928
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:32,480
uh the um

929
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,589
uh

930
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:39,440
oh let me let me think about it for a

931
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,960
second i'm temporarily drawing a blank

932
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,560
well i don't i don't want to distract

933
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,880
your thought process but what about um

934
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,240
there's actually a question somebody

935
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,480
asked me not that long ago

936
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,800
from your perspective regarding

937
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,599
um

938
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,520
two observers seeing

939
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,520
two separate things

940
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:00,079
to where one would let's say see a ball

941
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,520
of light and the other one would just

942
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,480
see more of a weird cloud

943
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,560
do you have any thoughts or explanation

944
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,079
regarding that

945
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,160
yeah i do

946
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,990
one of the uh oh i remembered another

947
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,720
thing with the uf ufology but i'll

948
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,040
address that that question

949
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,200
is um

950
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:25,839
one of the things that ufos do is they

951
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,150
they just seem to disappear sometimes

952
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,800
and then appear out of nowhere

953
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:36,960
well isn't that what

954
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,560
you know like an apparition does

955
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,760
right

956
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,720
yeah

957
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,800
we have these same kinds of sets of

958
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,240
mechanics

959
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:48,400
uh

960
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,680
the idea of um

961
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,160
of two observers observing something

962
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:57,119
different from different angles

963
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,640
has to do

964
00:43:02,950 --> 00:42:59,520
with

965
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:07,030
is the way that space time

966
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:18,390
in a materialization of information

967
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:22,309
the structure in space-time that occurs

968
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:25,359
when information is materializing

969
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,000
into the physical

970
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:31,440
very much resembles what

971
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,280
is called in physics in einstein rosen

972
00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:36,640
bridge

973
00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:41,000
colloquially

974
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,200
scientifically or or you know in

975
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:46,560
filmography or

976
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,880
you know common language it's called

977
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:51,119
wormholes

978
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,480
terminology

979
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:58,880
it's used the term is used for common

980
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:02,480
language for an einstein rosen bridge

981
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:05,760
so if we have such a tunnel

982
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,030
and something is materializing in the

983
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,440
mouth of this

984
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,319
you can easily understand why an

985
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:20,960
observer standing at point a

986
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,000
would observe something different

987
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:27,280
than observer at point b

988
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,119
because they're looking at that mouth

989
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,119
from different angles

990
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,760
and since the materialization is still

991
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,160
inside the mouth

992
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,240
it's going to depend on

993
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:43,040
on what angle they're viewing that that

994
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:44,240
warped

995
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,109
which will result in what they see from

996
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,359
a particular position

997
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,400
uh if if if that was a good explanation

998
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:57,680
today

999
00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,960
no no i i understand it makes sense

1000
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,079
what was the other thing you wanted to

1001
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,960
cover that you remembered

1002
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,040
oh yeah the the the other thing i was

1003
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:08,880
talking about is that

1004
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,839
you know uh things disappear they appear

1005
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,079
and disappear

1006
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:16,800
in uh paranormal uh

1007
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:18,400
effects

1008
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,160
just like they do in ufology

1009
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,640
uh the relationship that i was trying to

1010
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,640
say is this

1011
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,630
and and it's several-fold number one

1012
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,670
we

1013
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,790
that

1014
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:42,480
there is a set

1015
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:44,839
of physical

1016
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,760
principles there's a set of what i call

1017
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,079
paranormal mechanics

1018
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:53,599
that are behind paranormal phenomena

1019
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:01,829
if we were able to break that

1020
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,800
secret crack that open

1021
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,400
what i call cracking the code of

1022
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,720
creation really

1023
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:11,119
and understand

1024
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,640
how those principles work and were able

1025
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:18,319
to

1026
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,240
build technology based on it admin

1027
00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:24,160
we would be able

1028
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:26,839
to build

1029
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:31,599
vehicles that do every single thing that

1030
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:39,750
now here's the other step of that

1031
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,960
ufos are remote

1032
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:44,960
in other words they occur up in the air

1033
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:47,520
they occur at distances

1034
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:50,400
they occur on a scale

1035
00:47:03,510 --> 00:46:59,510
but paranormal phenomena occurs locally

1036
00:47:04,589 --> 00:47:03,520
it occurs very close to human beings

1037
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,599
and the

1038
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:06,480
manifestations

1039
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:07,280
are

1040
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:10,800
small enough not like a 150 foot ufo

1041
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,119
thousand feet in the air or whatever

1042
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,160
but the manifestations of paranormal

1043
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,119
phenomena are small enough

1044
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:21,760
that they can actually be observed and

1045
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,990
so i

1046
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,520
propose

1047
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,520
that the

1048
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,040
answer

1049
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:35,280
to figuring out

1050
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:36,079
the

1051
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,839
physics of ufos

1052
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,160
is going to ultimately be the study of

1053
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,559
paranormal phenomena

1054
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,960
because we can study it

1055
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,040
it's up close

1056
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,480
it's local

1057
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,520
you have a haunted house

1058
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:56,079
where let's say you have activity in in

1059
00:48:03,430 --> 00:47:59,760
a couple of human scale rooms

1060
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:03,440
not not like a a pattern of of

1061
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,200
75 feet wide ufos flying over a mountain

1062
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:09,359
a half a mile away

1063
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:17,190
so if we can crack the code

1064
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:18,839
of paranormal

1065
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,760
mechanics and devise

1066
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,680
technology

1067
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,440
based on it which i talk about in my

1068
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,910
we would be able to

1069
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,960
build

1070
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:33,359
devices and vehicles that do every

1071
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:36,319
single thing that we observe ufos doing

1072
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,230
okay

1073
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:45,280
well thomas what do you think if we uh

1074
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,160
go into some questions and answers i

1075
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:50,160
have one one question for you and then

1076
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:51,839
that will give enough time for other

1077
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,200
questions to come in uh what do you say

1078
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,440
oh that sounds great

1079
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,800
okay i love it

1080
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:00,960
so uh those of you watching i know

1081
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:04,400
earlier there was um

1082
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:06,800
got the name spaceman oust was in

1083
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:09,440
telegram if you can jump back on i'll

1084
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:11,040
take a call over there

1085
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,000
and

1086
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,280
for those that do not wish to talk to

1087
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,440
thomas directly which i don't know why

1088
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,599
you can simply submit your question or

1089
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,599
in chat please make sure to use the

1090
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,000
three asterisks before the question uh

1091
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,119
before you submit it to the chat so yeah

1092
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,200
i have to tell them i don't think

1093
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,720
there's anything

1094
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,119
that you could ask that's so weird

1095
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:35,280
as the questions that i got when i was

1096
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,240
on coast to coast a.m them guys are

1097
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,640
really out there

1098
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:43,200
hey you know it's a

1099
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,559
lot larger audience too you know and uh

1100
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,319
yeah i can only imagine i'm sorry i

1101
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,800
didn't listen to it but uh that would be

1102
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:53,839
quite a trip um so wanted to ask you

1103
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:56,480
just to use your analogy regarding um

1104
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,000
forensics and um looking at the

1105
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,520
uh mechanics of of something happening

1106
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,240
that information that set of data is it

1107
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,800
only coming from one

1108
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,119
space i guess for lack of a better word

1109
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:14,319
or um can it also exist on multiple

1110
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:18,319
levels um coming to us so say from like

1111
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,240
different universes

1112
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,240
yeah that's that's a good question first

1113
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:24,960
of all i'm not a fan of the multiverse

1114
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:28,720
okay i i consider the multiverse

1115
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,720
a form of kicking the can down the road

1116
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,720
uh in other words

1117
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:35,680
uh

1118
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,720
if we cannot find the

1119
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:40,720
physical cause

1120
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,760
within our own universe

1121
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,079
for an observed effect

1122
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:49,200
we just simply step alongside and borrow

1123
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,240
it from another universe

1124
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:54,640
without trying to explain how can that

1125
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,400
be occurring in another universe as well

1126
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,839
uh

1127
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,680
to put it very simply

1128
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,280
um

1129
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,960
and in the best way that

1130
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,839
that i've come over the years to try to

1131
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,599
explain this

1132
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,400
uh you know to answer what your question

1133
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:13,839
is

1134
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:18,720
i'm going to say something you know the

1135
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,079
beginning of the universe

1136
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,000
i'm going to say something that is very

1137
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:25,680
odd and it's one of the

1138
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,160
revolutionary aspects of my work

1139
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:32,480
is that i believe

1140
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:35,440
that paranormal mechanics paranormal

1141
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,640
phenomena

1142
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:38,319
and ufology

1143
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:42,160
the things that we observe ufos doing

1144
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,630
are actually working on the very same

1145
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:52,880
principles

1146
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:54,400
that brought the universe into the

1147
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:55,599
beginning

1148
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:00,950
now that's pretty

1149
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:05,599
uh but when you stop and think about the

1150
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,480
basics it makes a lot of sense

1151
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:11,040
the uh uh

1152
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,520
the most important thing is this

1153
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,920
is that the universe according to the

1154
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:17,760
big bang theory

1155
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,760
emerged from a nothingness

1156
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:23,200
in terms of

1157
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,319
no

1158
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,480
thing

1159
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,480
before the beginning of the universe

1160
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:30,079
there was no

1161
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,750
that something is supposed to

1162
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,160
have been emerging

1163
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,079
from what they call a quantum

1164
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,480
singularity

1165
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:51,280
which they call infinitely dense and

1166
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,079
infinitely small

1167
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,559
the word infinite is a clue it is

1168
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,800
immeasurable

1169
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,480
anything that is physical and

1170
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,760
dimensional by its very definition is

1171
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:06,400
measurable

1172
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:13,280
in other words there's no

1173
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:16,000
there isn't a uh

1174
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:21,829
of coordinates

1175
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,319
whereas everything physical has a

1176
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,400
three spatial coordinates

1177
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:29,760
you know uh length width and depth

1178
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,470
uh for time

1179
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,960
so everything that is physical

1180
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,240
has a

1181
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,119
has four dimensions and it needs each

1182
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:45,359
one of those dimensions to define

1183
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:48,079
anything that is physical

1184
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,040
the

1185
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,680
meaning of a singularity

1186
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:53,680
is that there is only a single

1187
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,829
you know in school they uh

1188
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:02,240
told you about a line in geometry it's

1189
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,440
made of a

1190
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,160
an infinite number of points

1191
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,000
but if what if there was only a single

1192
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,000
point

1193
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,640
you couldn't draw a line

1194
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,200
you need another point

1195
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,760
that you can draw a line between the two

1196
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,040
of them

1197
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:20,720
with one point

1198
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,200
it is impossible to have a dimensional

1199
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:25,359
figure like a line

1200
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:33,349
so the universe emerged from a single

1201
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,750
so that's one thing

1202
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:41,920
the next thing is this when the universe

1203
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:48,630
it materialized

1204
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:51,839
with a form and a structure

1205
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,480
first thing that emerged was a bubble of

1206
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:56,240
space time

1207
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,240
therefore it means

1208
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:04,319
that space time

1209
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,119
appeared according to a set of data

1210
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:12,000
that described it

1211
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:15,520
it was information

1212
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:18,799
that when it became dimensional

1213
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:22,720
it materialized physically

1214
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,440
we talk about the primordial particles

1215
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,760
uh one of them is a neutrino everybody's

1216
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,920
heard about neutrinos

1217
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:31,920
you know scientists try to measure them

1218
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:34,880
because they believe that they are

1219
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,640
particles that emerged from the big bang

1220
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,480
well we didn't have in the early

1221
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,480
universe we didn't have a trial and

1222
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,160
error period

1223
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,880
where the pre-creational

1224
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,799
materials tried to assemble in a

1225
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:50,880
particle and it didn't work and it broke

1226
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,119
apart and then it tried again

1227
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:55,760
and it broke apart until it finally

1228
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,720
assembled itself as a neutrino that

1229
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,720
became the mother in trino that gave

1230
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:02,960
birth from to all the other neutrinos in

1231
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,119
the universe no no

1232
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:07,359
didn't happen that way

1233
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:10,720
neutrinos began to materialize

1234
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,000
everywhere in the early universe at the

1235
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,400
same moment

1236
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,440
now what does that mean

1237
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,760
it means there had to be

1238
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,280
a pre

1239
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,400
material blueprint

1240
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,880
a matrix

1241
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:31,680
a pattern

1242
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,920
if you will

1243
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,160
that contained all the information that

1244
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:38,799
would become a neutrino

1245
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:40,480
that when it crossed

1246
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:43,680
into the physical and materialized

1247
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,799
that body of information materialized as

1248
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,040
a neutrino

1249
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:50,799
as a photon

1250
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,349
when we talk about paranormal phenomena

1251
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,440
we're talking about let's say an

1252
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:05,200
apparition

1253
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,359
i could go through all the

1254
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:10,000
uh the different steps to show that it

1255
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:10,839
is

1256
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,319
impossible for the surrounding

1257
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,440
material like the walls and the floor

1258
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,280
some people talked about underground

1259
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:22,160
streams all that crazy stuff

1260
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,000
that could actually record

1261
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,319
the information

1262
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,079
for a

1263
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,160
an apparition

1264
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:34,640
and then play it back on demand and then

1265
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,680
project it into a specific locality

1266
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,359
in local space

1267
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,839
and then actually

1268
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:46,400
like be a moving projector to cause it

1269
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,000
to walk down a hallway or something

1270
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,319
nothing in the physical surroundings can

1271
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,960
do that

1272
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,200
so the information

1273
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,720
that makes up the apparition

1274
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:02,960
must be coming from outside of space

1275
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,870
and it's materially materializing within

1276
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,349
physical space-time

1277
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,280
sometimes

1278
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,599
these paranormal

1279
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,520
researchers will send somebody to a

1280
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,599
library

1281
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,240
find out somebody who who died maybe in

1282
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,119
the house a hundred years ago

1283
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:30,160
brings the photo

1284
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,440
in the house

1285
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,079
shows it to the homeowners and they gasp

1286
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,559
and say oh my goodness that's the lady

1287
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,640
we've been seeing in our kitchen it

1288
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,799
looks just like her

1289
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:42,319
well

1290
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,240
that photograph is a collection of

1291
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,319
information

1292
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,480
that was conveyed on a light

1293
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:51,280
wave a light beam and recorded on the

1294
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:57,349
the source of that information is gone

1295
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,319
adnan that body rotted away a hundred

1296
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:02,319
years it's gone

1297
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,160
there is no presence of the information

1298
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:08,880
that's in that photograph

1299
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,000
anywhere in the physical environment

1300
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:14,319
because the source of the information

1301
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,480
from which the photograph was derived is

1302
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:17,760
destroyed

1303
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:22,319
so where does the information come from

1304
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:25,200
to materialize the apparition

1305
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,119
that people are seeing and saying it

1306
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,040
looks just like the photo that's 100

1307
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,359
years old of a body that's long since

1308
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,470
that means that that information is

1309
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:39,440
stored somewhere out of space time

1310
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,640
now are there layers of it

1311
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,400
well by definition it would be

1312
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:46,400
non-physical

1313
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,480
which means it would not have a physical

1314
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:50,400
dimension

1315
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:56,720
and therefore you cannot have layers in

1316
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:03,510
and and have um

1317
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:05,119
and not have

1318
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:08,640
mathematical coordinates to define them

1319
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:10,880
so you mean by that definition it cannot

1320
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:14,880
be called the separate universe

1321
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:17,760
there's no need for a separate universe

1322
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:18,960
no no i mean i'm just talking about

1323
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:21,440
since you said since layers outside of

1324
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,079
space and time

1325
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,400
yeah i'm saying okay

1326
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:28,799
you are correct according and and i have

1327
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,119
a drawing of it in my book

1328
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:33,599
according to what we have

1329
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:35,920
i call it the omniverse

1330
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,440
and since i published there were a

1331
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:39,680
couple people that borrowed that for

1332
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:43,200
their own work it's kind of funny

1333
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,040
but if you've heard it before in other

1334
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:47,040
sources

1335
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:53,270
the omniverse

1336
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,799
comprises

1337
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:56,480
in my model

1338
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:01,200
of two components of two basic areas

1339
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,200
they're both part of the same reality

1340
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:07,280
but the physical universe is called the

1341
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,240
universe

1342
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,240
the part of reality

1343
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:14,880
that gives rise to the physical universe

1344
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,510
peter meaning the um

1345
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,359
oh is it the greek

1346
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:25,760
no it's the roman

1347
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:29,440
peter is the roman word for father

1348
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:32,799
so you know the uh

1349
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,750
and the

1350
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,599
romans called him

1351
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:41,760
father zeus

1352
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,000
peter zeus or jupiter

1353
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:48,000
that's where the word jupiter comes from

1354
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:54,870
so i call that the patriverse

1355
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:57,599
what i say is reality actually occurs in

1356
01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:00,240
the patriverse

1357
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:02,720
and it is layered

1358
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,789
in other words information has to

1359
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,880
reach a certain density before it can

1360
01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:15,359
materialize

1361
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:18,559
now let's say you have a graduation

1362
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:21,760
of from lesser to greater density until

1363
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:24,640
it finally reaches light speed and then

1364
01:02:33,910 --> 01:02:31,349
uh so

1365
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:33,920
it's more like a graduation i i don't

1366
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,319
see it as as layers if you kind of

1367
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:37,839
follow what i mean

1368
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:39,839
i do

1369
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:40,720
okay

1370
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,119
all right well uh uh tom let's take some

1371
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,280
questions um

1372
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:47,680
please let me bring in somebody help me

1373
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:48,400
some

1374
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,109
it's just a it's the complexity of the

1375
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:58,720
of the information

1376
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:01,359
it's so different than what people are

1377
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,799
used to imagining right uh that it just

1378
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:06,960
although when i talk to

1379
01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:09,520
someone who's scientifically trained

1380
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,039
uh they

1381
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:13,200
generally understand it

1382
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:15,680
uh one of the symposium i spoke with a

1383
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:19,280
woman who had a degree in astrophysics

1384
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,520
and after about 20 minutes of her jaw

1385
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,520
hanging on the floor

1386
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,720
she said

1387
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:26,640
you've just reconfigured my entire

1388
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,920
education

1389
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:29,520
she says because you didn't have the

1390
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:31,760
courses you don't even know

1391
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:34,079
the mysteries that you're answering with

1392
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:36,160
this theory

1393
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:37,680
um

1394
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:40,319
but you know for the general public it's

1395
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,880
very hard it's very difficult

1396
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,200
but go ahead admin i'm sorry no no

1397
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,000
that's all right so specimen space man

1398
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:50,319
oust i'm going to unmute you please make

1399
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,839
sure that your

1400
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:53,920
any kind of uh feedback you have if

1401
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,760
you're listening to this live uh put

1402
01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:57,440
that on mute please uh just so it

1403
01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:00,079
doesn't feed back into our stream

1404
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:02,559
so you are unmuted

1405
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:04,240
on my end and mute yourself and yours

1406
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:10,349
uh yeah

1407
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,680
um i'm just wondering if you knew about

1408
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,079
uh the science when they first looked at

1409
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,079
the surface of the atom

1410
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,559
um they made like a the electron

1411
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:22,480
microscope yeah and they sort of put the

1412
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,559
magnetic field as close to the surface

1413
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:27,119
of the atom and they could um receive

1414
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:30,240
back an image of the surface um are you

1415
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:33,599
aware of that science that they did

1416
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:34,559
i'm just

1417
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,640
curious because

1418
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,160
what ended up happening when they were

1419
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,799
demonstrating it uh to showing you that

1420
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:42,640
they were able to look at the surface of

1421
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:43,760
the atom

1422
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:47,280
um what looked like a fuzzy ball um from

1423
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:49,280
a distance but as they got in closer

1424
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:51,200
they realized that the atom was made up

1425
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:52,079
of

1426
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:56,400
that were all stuck together

1427
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:57,599
and um

1428
01:05:01,430 --> 01:05:00,079
when they got close to the surface to

1429
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:01,440
show you that

1430
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,200
what ended up happening was the image

1431
01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:04,880
that came back on the monitor was

1432
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:07,359
actually just a um like a big white

1433
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:10,000
blurry dot uh that took up the whole

1434
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:12,400
screen so they panned out

1435
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:15,280
and what they ended up seeing was um was

1436
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:18,400
that they pulled the part of the atom um

1437
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:20,720
off off the surface and it was stuck to

1438
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:22,480
the tip of the needle that was producing

1439
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,400
the magnetic field

1440
01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,160
and they realized that they were able to

1441
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:29,039
actually pull the atom apart uh piece by

1442
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:30,319
piece

1443
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:33,440
so they then uh replicated that's that

1444
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:36,319
experiment but at a smaller scale where

1445
01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:38,079
they could actually look at the surface

1446
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:40,319
that that piece they took off the atom

1447
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,240
because it looked identical to the

1448
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:44,640
actual original atoms so

1449
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:46,880
they wanted then to look at the

1450
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,400
surface of it

1451
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:51,359
and um when they did they made the scale

1452
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:53,200
of it down and and got to look at the

1453
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,079
surface of that particle they pulled off

1454
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,680
what what image

1455
01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,839
they ended up getting was actually like

1456
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,079
they were looking out at the universe it

1457
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:04,720
was like looking into the galaxy into a

1458
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:07,119
galaxy sort of thing you know and i just

1459
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,280
that sort of as well pulled up signs of

1460
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:11,359
it um stop the space man i'm sorry to

1461
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:14,000
interrupt can you can you just uh ask a

1462
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:14,960
question

1463
01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:16,240
so that

1464
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:17,839
like i think you're given enough

1465
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:20,240
explanation do you have a question

1466
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,680
do you have a question

1467
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:23,520
yeah i'm just wondering if he's aware of

1468
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,079
that science when they looked at that

1469
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,920
that the service of the adam how they

1470
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,680
ended up yeah because i was trying to

1471
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:31,039
figure out how

1472
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:33,119
things were solid you know when atoms

1473
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:34,720
are hollow and they got electrons and

1474
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,640
neutrons spinning around you know and

1475
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,400
they were trying to figure out

1476
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:40,640
what made uh

1477
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:43,039
subjects in our world you know it's

1478
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,960
solid mass because

1479
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,960
um you know the things i was made of

1480
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,520
were actually hollow you know so

1481
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:51,039
so you want to ask him if he's heard of

1482
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,039
it was anything specific you wanted him

1483
01:07:08,309 --> 01:06:55,680
to answer regarding that

1484
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,670
uh

1485
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,359
and thank you for the question and and

1486
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:13,359
if i don't understand it please forgive

1487
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:14,400
me

1488
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,039
because of the way the audio was

1489
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:21,039
a little bit kind of bleeding and out

1490
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:26,230
but

1491
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,760
according to

1492
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:30,000
my model and this is the one of the

1493
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:30,799
other

1494
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:33,920
wonderful things about it

1495
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,240
according to conventional physics let's

1496
01:07:40,829 --> 01:07:38,160
talk about conventional physics for a

1497
01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:45,589
um there are two

1498
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:48,789
physical states of reality

1499
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,069
one of them is the quantum state

1500
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:58,480
and one of them is the relativistic or

1501
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,559
macro state

1502
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:02,240
the quantum state

1503
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,680
uh addresses issues uh

1504
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:07,839
with the way things exist and behave on

1505
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,520
a very very small

1506
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:11,760
subatomic scale

1507
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:20,950
deals with the macro universe

1508
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:22,950
the problem that we have in physics and

1509
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:25,120
had for some time

1510
01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:26,640
is that

1511
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:29,120
the relativistic state relativity as in

1512
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,799
einstein the relativistic state

1513
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:34,319
is perfect

1514
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,719
at describing the universe at large

1515
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:40,880
the quantum

1516
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:47,910
is perfect for describing what happens

1517
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:50,159
in the quantum universe

1518
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:57,910
we cannot form

1519
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,560
a continuous theory

1520
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,880
that includes both the relativistic

1521
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:04,319
state

1522
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,679
so i think part of the question was

1523
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:11,359
when we look at the nature of the

1524
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,000
quantum state the subatomic

1525
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:16,239
uh realm

1526
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:20,640
how does that result in solid physical

1527
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:21,839
mass

1528
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:25,359
in the relativistic macro state

1529
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,390
um

1530
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:32,319
if you heard it better than i did i'm

1531
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,480
gonna have to trust you that that you

1532
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,199
are answering it just uh proceed he's

1533
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:39,520
gonna let us know if not

1534
01:09:44,189 --> 01:09:41,040
all right

1535
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:44,199
the answer to this dichotomy this

1536
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:49,510
in

1537
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,839
super geometry which is the name of my

1538
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,520
theory that's the model that's in the

1539
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:55,760
book

1540
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:00,390
is that reality consists of three states

1541
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:03,040
not two

1542
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:07,040
reality does not consist only of the

1543
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,990
it also

1544
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:15,360
exists

1545
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,070
that's the third state of reality

1546
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,080
or you could call it the non-physical

1547
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,400
state

1548
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:28,320
just like it was in the beginning of the

1549
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:29,760
universe

1550
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:34,880
non-physical state

1551
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:38,800
now what happens is that the information

1552
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:45,990
materializes

1553
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:47,280
into the

1554
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:50,320
relativistic macro state

1555
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:54,960
the quantum state is the transition

1556
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:56,840
state

1557
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:00,320
between what is not yet physical

1558
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,030
that explains the weirdness of the

1559
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:09,600
quantum realm

1560
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:10,840
they

1561
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:13,520
cannot for example

1562
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,880
the uncertainty principle

1563
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:19,360
cannot determine

1564
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:22,080
measure both the velocity and the

1565
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:26,000
location of an electron at the same time

1566
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:29,760
it can only measure one or the other

1567
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,270
according to my theory

1568
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,320
the quantum state lacks

1569
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:40,080
sufficient

1570
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,430
in order to

1571
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:47,199
follow the rules of the fully

1572
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:50,400
materialized universe

1573
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,280
it's a transitional state which explains

1574
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:55,920
perfectly what i see

1575
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:57,440
or what we see

1576
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,080
when we look at the quantum realm

1577
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,040
let's say in the uncertainty principle

1578
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:05,360
the problem

1579
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:08,560
of not being able to

1580
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:10,880
measure both the velocity and the

1581
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:14,000
location of an electron at the same time

1582
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:17,360
is that it has yet to acquire sufficient

1583
01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:23,750
the four dimensions

1584
01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:27,199
of space-time that are necessary

1585
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:28,760
to define the

1586
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:31,600
macro-relativistic material materialized

1587
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:32,960
universe

1588
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:37,199
has not yet been completely unfolded

1589
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,320
therefore

1590
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,040
there's not sufficient

1591
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:42,800
differences

1592
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:46,159
between here and there

1593
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:51,189
spatial dimensions

1594
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,560
there are measurements of difference

1595
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:54,880
between here and there

1596
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:01,910
to measure the dimensional or the

1597
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,199
temporal dimension between then and now

1598
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:06,960
or if you want to talk about the future

1599
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,550
so my definition of time is the

1600
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,719
measurement of difference between then

1601
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,239
and now

1602
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:19,280
it's almost childlike

1603
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,120
and my dimension of space

1604
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:25,679
is the definition or is the difference

1605
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,679
between here and there

1606
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:29,679
which you need coordinates when the

1607
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:32,560
coordinates are not defined well enough

1608
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:35,920
you cannot take a measurement

1609
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,960
now

1610
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:39,600
the mysterious the the mystery about the

1611
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:43,199
quantum universe is that they see it as

1612
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,480
a standalone state

1613
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:48,239
that here's the quantum realm as a

1614
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:50,960
standalone state here's the macro realm

1615
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,280
the relativistic realm is as a

1616
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,440
standalone state and they can't get the

1617
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:57,840
two to play together according to the

1618
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:01,280
super geometric model

1619
01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:02,159
the

1620
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,000
quantum state

1621
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,719
is a transitional state

1622
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,640
see conventional science can't look at

1623
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:11,920
it that way because there isn't a third

1624
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:15,360
state of reality

1625
01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:16,480
you know

1626
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:18,800
by which

1627
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,239
something can't can transition from one

1628
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,239
to the other in other words if you have

1629
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:26,320
a transition from one state to the other

1630
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,040
you need to at least have three states

1631
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:31,280
you have to have your starting state you

1632
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:33,280
have to have your finished state and

1633
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:34,800
then you have to have the state in

1634
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:40,950
so in that state

1635
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:43,040
of the quantum realm

1636
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:44,640
which flies around pretty much at the

1637
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:47,520
speed of light there is insufficient

1638
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:50,320
dimensionalism

1639
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:53,840
to take accurate measures

1640
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:57,120
which is why it behaves the way it is it

1641
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:57,920
is

1642
01:15:03,350 --> 01:14:59,600
information

1643
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:03,360
in the process of materializing

1644
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:07,120
why there's why it isn't solid

1645
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:11,280
like the relativistic universe

1646
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:13,120
is that it's still in the process of

1647
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:16,239
materializing it can't be solid

1648
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:20,320
because if it had to be solid like mass

1649
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:22,320
it would have to have four dimensions by

1650
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,990
an example of this is the einstein

1651
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:31,679
model

1652
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:34,159
thought experiment about a spaceship

1653
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,159
traveling at the speed of light or right

1654
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:38,640
below it

1655
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:40,960
since mass cannot travel at the speed of

1656
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:44,640
light there's a clue right there for you

1657
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:46,960
for mass to travel at the speed of light

1658
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,280
and you've probably heard of this before

1659
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:52,880
would require what they call infinite

1660
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,590
infinite energy

1661
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,270
which is something that can't exist in

1662
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:03,199
the physical universe

1663
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:05,760
so we talk about spaceships einstein

1664
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,920
talked about

1665
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,080
ships or like trains

1666
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:12,080
that traveled just below the speed of

1667
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:16,159
light if you were looking out a porthole

1668
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:18,880
front windshield of a spaceship

1669
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,840
traveling just under the speed of light

1670
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:23,360
you would see

1671
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:30,630
that you already passed the stars that

1672
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:32,840
you are in process of

1673
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:35,920
passing and the stars that you have yet

1674
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:37,520
to pass

1675
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,310
in the view of the porthole

1676
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:46,400
past present and future would be seen

1677
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:49,120
simultaneously

1678
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:51,040
and there's places online you could look

1679
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:56,470
so

1680
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:58,880
what my model says is that at the

1681
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,600
velocities that the subatomic world

1682
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:03,360
operates at

1683
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:07,040
there is insufficient dimensions

1684
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:09,600
to discern not only what's behind us

1685
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,159
what's next to us and what's in front of

1686
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:17,350
but it's also

1687
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:20,800
insufficiently materialized

1688
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,960
to be able to measure

1689
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,360
the time that we passed

1690
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:27,520
the past stars

1691
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,760
the time that we are passing the stars

1692
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:31,679
on the side of us

1693
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:33,840
and the time that we will encounter the

1694
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,470
and that's the explanation

1695
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,960
of why the quantum universe

1696
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:45,679
acts the way it does

1697
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:47,199
and

1698
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:51,040
why it cannot turn into solid mass

1699
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:53,440
like in a relativistic state

1700
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,390
well thank you for that uh tom thomas

1701
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,320
let me uh bring spaceman in just to

1702
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,560
finish up with him

1703
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:08,560
because he had to raise his hands again

1704
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:10,880
and then after that um i'll get to the

1705
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:18,229
uh spaceman please make sure to mute any

1706
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:20,560
feed any playback you have from any

1707
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:23,280
other players uh i'd appreciate it

1708
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:25,120
you are unmuted and mute yourself on

1709
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,640
your part and um

1710
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:28,880
uh was um did thomas answer your

1711
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:33,830
[Music]

1712
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:36,960
please speak up a little bit if you can

1713
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:38,719
i don't understand everything he was

1714
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,400
saying but um

1715
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,159
what my question is

1716
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:43,600
is um

1717
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:48,159
is dark matter in space is it a vacuum

1718
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:51,440
um and when a when a spaceship opens at

1719
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,640
store in the air is it sucked out or is

1720
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:57,280
it actually um dark matter actually

1721
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:00,239
pressure because nikola tesla claimed

1722
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:04,470
was

1723
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:08,719
uh formed from um escaping dark matter

1724
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:10,800
the pressure of dark matter

1725
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:13,360
and you know i one day like you know is

1726
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,280
actually the oxygen in a spaceship when

1727
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,000
the doors open is it actually

1728
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,480
pressurized out or is it vacuumed out

1729
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:23,199
you know because he believed it was like

1730
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:24,480
a fluid

1731
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,239
um dark matter

1732
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:28,400
and they've done an experiment where

1733
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:30,480
they got a light bulb like a traditional

1734
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:32,880
light bulb with two elements in it

1735
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:35,520
and they actually had um the two

1736
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:38,400
elements sharing the negative pole

1737
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,280
so

1738
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:41,199
when they turned the light on each

1739
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:43,920
element produced its own light but in

1740
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,239
between in the middle of it there was

1741
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,560
dark matter when you zoomed in

1742
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:50,640
to look at it closely you could actually

1743
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,000
see it a thin black line between the two

1744
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:56,159
elements of light

1745
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,120
so

1746
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,520
yeah i was just curious to know whether

1747
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:00,640
he thought

1748
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:03,199
space was a vacuum or um actually under

1749
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,840
pressure thomas before i meet him does

1750
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:07,360
that make sense

1751
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:08,159
yes

1752
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:09,600
okay all right thank you space man

1753
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:14,629
all right well here's what the

1754
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,520
there's a couple of uh problems uh with

1755
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:19,360
what you're asking

1756
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,800
um

1757
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,960
first of all i'm familiar with what what

1758
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:24,880
you're talking about with the with the

1759
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:27,600
light bulb experiment

1760
01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:30,800
the idea that that is dark matter what's

1761
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:32,760
being observed is

1762
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:40,870
to date and you can look this up online

1763
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:42,880
there has been no

1764
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:45,440
experiment

1765
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:48,480
that directly resulted

1766
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:52,080
in the detection of something that that

1767
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:55,679
fits the definition of dark matter

1768
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,440
so if you've been reading that's dark

1769
01:21:04,629 --> 01:20:59,360
matter you've read somebody who has

1770
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:06,070
that's a problem

1771
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,760
uh the other problem is that

1772
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:12,320
to the best of my recollection

1773
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,560
and i would have to do the online

1774
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,800
research but i've studied a lot about

1775
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:18,719
tesla

1776
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,080
the theory

1777
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:28,400
of dark matter

1778
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:30,239
or i should say the notion of dark

1779
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:31,280
matter

1780
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:37,360
real part of our universe

1781
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:39,199
only came

1782
01:21:43,390 --> 01:21:40,159
uh

1783
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:43,400
into play when our

1784
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:46,560
observational instrumentation

1785
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:49,840
that we used to look out in the universe

1786
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:52,880
was strong enough

1787
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:56,159
to where we could see gravitational

1788
01:22:02,870 --> 01:21:58,159
lensing

1789
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:02,880
in areas of space bending of space-time

1790
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:06,320
without any adjacent

1791
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:08,800
physical visible matter to account for

1792
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:11,679
that bending

1793
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:13,600
so it defied

1794
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,639
the normal model of gravity which is the

1795
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:18,320
bending of space

1796
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:21,440
that space is bent around

1797
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:23,280
material objects

1798
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:25,440
well in these cases of gravitational

1799
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:26,560
lensing

1800
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,239
there was no visible matter

1801
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,880
so the theory of dark matter came up to

1802
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:34,800
explain

1803
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:37,679
what this invisible matter

1804
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,600
might be

1805
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:41,600
that's causing this gravitational

1806
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:45,040
lensing where no visible matter is there

1807
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,120
this predates

1808
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:48,639
tesla

1809
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:55,600
uh uh

1810
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:58,159
that information my goodness uh

1811
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:00,320
let me look real quick adnan

1812
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,030
uh

1813
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:18,070
now i'm getting cars

1814
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:20,709
nikola tesla

1815
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,229
now do you remember in 1943 what the

1816
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,639
what they thought the universe was

1817
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,560
um i'm not trying to be smart as i

1818
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:35,440
wasn't born yet

1819
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:37,520
the universe they thought

1820
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:44,870
they thought our galaxy whatever that

1821
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:47,600
comprised

1822
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,400
was

1823
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:51,120
the entirety of the known universe

1824
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:53,280
so i think uh uh

1825
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:56,000
i think the caller i forget is his his

1826
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,040
tag name

1827
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:59,360
you've been reading material that is

1828
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:00,880
based on

1829
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:03,760
speculation

1830
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,159
exaggeration

1831
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,960
sensationalism

1832
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,960
but you won't find any

1833
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:12,320
of that

1834
01:24:17,669 --> 01:24:15,120
idea that identifying number one that

1835
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:17,679
those the the observation was actually

1836
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,639
dark matter for sure for sure

1837
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,800
and number two that nikolai tesla had a

1838
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:24,960
theory of dark matter

1839
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,270
are you saying that nikola tesla was

1840
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,600
wrong or just uh didn't have no

1841
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,600
information

1842
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:38,080
yeah nikola tesla didn't have a theory

1843
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:43,590
during his time we didn't even have the

1844
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:49,590
that would result

1845
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,840
in anyone trying to formulate a theory

1846
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:54,000
of dark matter

1847
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,080
we had to look far enough out in space

1848
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,560
and have accurate enough measurements

1849
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:00,080
that we were able to detect

1850
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:02,400
gravitational lensing

1851
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:05,280
that we were able to detect

1852
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:06,560
and measure

1853
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:09,360
the actual speed of motion not only of

1854
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:13,840
our galaxies but of other galaxies

1855
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:16,960
and come up with the understanding

1856
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,159
that the way that they rotate and the

1857
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,280
speed of which they're rotating is far

1858
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,280
in excess

1859
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:27,760
of what could be accounted for

1860
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,159
by by the the classical model of gravity

1861
01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:34,080
this information wasn't available in

1862
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:36,159
tesla's time

1863
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,280
okay uh

1864
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:39,600
of course you know uh in some of the

1865
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:41,679
other alternative fields if you ever

1866
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,639
watch the ancient aliens tv show

1867
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:47,040
they say that aliens

1868
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:49,760
gave nicola tesla everything that he he

1869
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:51,040
knew

1870
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,120
they fed it into his brain or something

1871
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:55,199
i don't know well there's certainly milk

1872
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:58,320
in that cow aren't they

1873
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,800
yeah it's like you know uh

1874
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:02,880
i'm not saying it's aliens but it's

1875
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:08,870
so yeah there's a lot of there's a lot

1876
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:15,110
lots of silly things

1877
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:18,400
i was just talking to to my wife and um

1878
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:19,360
those

1879
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:21,760
what's that discovery history channel

1880
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,920
is where is it airing

1881
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,920
it might be the hit i know one on

1882
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,000
regular cable tv it's on the history

1883
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,400
channel okay discovery

1884
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:32,159
you know on the on the internet on

1885
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,280
streaming

1886
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,440
might contain it as well i don't know

1887
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,760
well you know i like the fact that

1888
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:40,320
you know a person that um you know just

1889
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,320
might have some interest

1890
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:44,800
will get them start thinking about ufos

1891
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,120
and extra thresholds and all that but i

1892
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,360
don't like the fact that it's based on

1893
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:50,800
that

1894
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,239
you know because yeah it's like i'm not

1895
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:54,480
saying like you said it's that

1896
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:55,280
you know

1897
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,880
i'm not saying it's aliens but it's

1898
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,800
aliens you know and so i watch something

1899
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,560
else where they have all these theories

1900
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:03,040
and it's like at this point until you

1901
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:04,960
know one day they land themselves and

1902
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,360
and prove everything wrong or right at

1903
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,080
this point it's like they basically

1904
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:11,840
they turn themselves into what i call

1905
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:14,880
the new mtv where mtv used to do music

1906
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,120
videos now it does nothing but reality

1907
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,360
shows in some bs and then you have

1908
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:21,840
history channels so during history they

1909
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:24,320
turn themselves into basically like ufo

1910
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:26,320
conspiracy stuff

1911
01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:27,120
yeah

1912
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,440
it's all about entertainment

1913
01:27:33,830 --> 01:27:31,760
it's all about

1914
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,840
yeah i wish it was done more more uh

1915
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,840
factually that's what i'm trying to say

1916
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:37,840
you know i mean i'm not i'm not saying

1917
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:40,480
i'm not saying that

1918
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:42,400
right well i'm gonna sell cornflakes

1919
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:43,440
that way

1920
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:45,840
that's the old saying in the in the tv

1921
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:48,000
business with advertising a tv show got

1922
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:51,760
to sell cornflakes right right right

1923
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:55,040
flakes with reality they talk about the

1924
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:56,239
you know the

1925
01:28:02,229 --> 01:27:59,440
the city of balbach

1926
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,239
and they talk about the trilotons those

1927
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:04,400
three giant stones

1928
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,639
and you hear them talking about that

1929
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:09,840
balbeck was built on the platform of

1930
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,120
these stones it's an absolute lie

1931
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,600
the turlotron stones in the foundation

1932
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:19,920
of baalbeck are not

1933
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:21,840
a platform

1934
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,320
and this was one of their shows

1935
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:26,560
oh yeah they talk about it or you find

1936
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:29,440
it online you know it's a bunch of lies

1937
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,320
you know

1938
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:33,520
balbeck was built by my ancestors the

1939
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:36,639
romans i'm fusco i'm italian

1940
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,320
you know it was built by my ancestors in

1941
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:42,480
historic times

1942
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:47,440
and every engineer can tell you exactly

1943
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,280
why they placed the trilotons

1944
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:52,960
because it was to

1945
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:55,440
prevent the city from sliding down the

1946
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:57,840
hill

1947
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:01,040
it's the same reason why my ancestors

1948
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:04,320
the romans inherits time

1949
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:09,280
put that giant 600 ton stone

1950
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:11,920
in the foundation wall

1951
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:14,239
of the second temple in jerusalem that

1952
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,679
was built by my ancestors

1953
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:19,840
they didn't want to talk about that and

1954
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:23,520
in both the uh the instances of balbach

1955
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,040
and in the instance of the temple

1956
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:29,600
they know the quarries where the stones

1957
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,239
were cut out of

1958
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:34,159
they're nearby

1959
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:37,040
they know where they are

1960
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:38,880
so yeah if you're thinking of if you're

1961
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,480
listening to ancient aliens oh

1962
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,639
oh my goodness

1963
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:46,000
uh

1964
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,270
no maybe you should be i'll drop your

1965
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:55,360
name or something

1966
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:56,560
just kidding i don't have any

1967
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:02,310
but you know it really is very difficult

1968
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:05,440
for the general public

1969
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,120
not only to sort out fact from fantasy

1970
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:11,760
but also

1971
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:14,560
to find the general public that actually

1972
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,560
wants the facts

1973
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:18,320
it's like that old movie that jack

1974
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,040
nicholson was in where he's the military

1975
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:23,360
guy and he yells in the in the courtroom

1976
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:26,080
you can't handle that

1977
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:29,120
yeah a few good men i loved that movie

1978
01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:30,320
yeah they

1979
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:32,800
people don't want the truth when they're

1980
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:34,480
looking at these shows

1981
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:35,920
they want to be

1982
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,280
excited

1983
01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:39,280
they want to think about

1984
01:30:46,830 --> 01:30:41,840
that they're learning something

1985
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:46,840
that is contrary to the establishment

1986
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:50,239
right it is based on

1987
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:52,880
the philosophy of

1988
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:55,520
rebellion

1989
01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:56,560
okay

1990
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,600
well

1991
01:31:02,229 --> 01:30:59,360
people that are involved in paranormal

1992
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,239
phenomena because they pursue

1993
01:31:05,590 --> 01:31:04,239
rebelling against the

1994
01:31:07,750 --> 01:31:05,600
mainstream

1995
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:07,760
that they could become experts in

1996
01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:10,159
something with virtually no

1997
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:12,480
credentials or education

1998
01:31:19,830 --> 01:31:14,880
that the rest of humanity is totally

1999
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,149
okay i'm sorry i branded

2000
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:24,080
that's all right you know

2001
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:26,560
you got to speak your piece uh just real

2002
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:27,760
quick i don't know if you changed your

2003
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:31,120
mic we sound just a little bit distant

2004
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:34,960
so the next question is from labeled369

2005
01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:37,679
she's asking is non-physical state

2006
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,830
depends on where it originates

2007
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:47,990
okay

2008
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:48,960
and

2009
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:50,080
what i mean

2010
01:31:54,310 --> 01:31:51,760
is is this

2011
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,320
we know from the scientific information

2012
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:56,400
that we have available to us now with

2013
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:57,120
our

2014
01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:03,350
that thoughts exist in the brain

2015
01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:08,870
so thoughts are things thoughts are

2016
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:10,880
physical

2017
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:13,760
however when you start talking about

2018
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:16,639
parapsychology

2019
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:20,159
let's say remote viewing

2020
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:21,679
now you're talking about something

2021
01:32:29,830 --> 01:32:26,390
because to make a long story short

2022
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:29,840
there is no physical medium

2023
01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:32,639
by which information about the color in

2024
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:33,760
a

2025
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:53,440
then

2026
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,440
when it drops into the mind

2027
01:33:01,830 --> 01:33:00,239
that information that non-physical

2028
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:01,840
information

2029
01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:05,520
it materializes in the brain

2030
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:14,709
wow

2031
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:19,669
so psychic phenomena is also paranormal

2032
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:21,669
in other words it behaves to the same

2033
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:24,000
paranormal mechanics as paranormal

2034
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:26,880
phenomena does it's a materialization of

2035
01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:29,760
information which occurred at the very

2036
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:36,709
so that really is something else that's

2037
01:33:42,390 --> 01:33:39,040
revolutionary revolutionary about my

2038
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:42,400
theory it allows us to

2039
01:33:46,310 --> 01:33:44,880
look at things in a new way where

2040
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:46,320
everything all these things are

2041
01:33:55,189 --> 01:33:51,750
which adnan is one of the aspects of

2042
01:33:57,750 --> 01:33:56,149
people

2043
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:57,760
wonder

2044
01:34:02,709 --> 01:34:00,639
well how can each spaceship come from

2045
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:02,719
foreign galaxies or other places in the

2046
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:05,280
galaxy there simply isn't sufficient

2047
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:08,080
time and space to accommodate those

2048
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:10,960
spaceships traveling physically through

2049
01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:16,390
well

2050
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,560
if they

2051
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:20,560
have mastered

2052
01:34:25,350 --> 01:34:23,440
what i call paranormal mechanics

2053
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,360
they know how to de-materialize

2054
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,950
and then project the information

2055
01:34:37,669 --> 01:34:35,110
just like the the person to ladies photo

2056
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:37,679
i was talking about earlier

2057
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,280
take the information and project it

2058
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:43,760
to a location near our

2059
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:46,080
our planet

2060
01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:47,760
with the proper

2061
01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:49,920
resonant frequency for the coordinate in

2062
01:34:52,629 --> 01:34:51,119
space

2063
01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:52,639
and then drop it back down and

2064
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,470
and no more any need to figure out how

2065
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:03,199
to build giant engines to bypass space

2066
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:10,229
did that make sense

2067
01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:11,840
yeah

2068
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:15,040
well thomas is there any uh last uh last

2069
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:16,320
thoughts you want to leave us with

2070
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:22,070
i have a lot of them but

2071
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:27,750
last i doubt you'll have any last

2072
01:35:31,189 --> 01:35:29,040
thoughts

2073
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:31,199
has everybody has everybody passed out

2074
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:33,679
in the audience yet or

2075
01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:36,560
well uh no just uh whoever sometimes

2076
01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:38,639
asks questions sometimes they don't and

2077
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:40,840
today they just seem to be

2078
01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:44,400
listening oh okay all right because i've

2079
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:46,239
been told that sometimes some of the

2080
01:35:52,030 --> 01:35:50,320
material i talk about results into uh

2081
01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:52,040
um

2082
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:53,920
involuntary

2083
01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:57,040
uh uh fetal positions and some [\h__\h]

2084
01:36:02,310 --> 01:35:59,119
uh thumb sucking

2085
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,320
uh it has a tendency to just shake

2086
01:36:06,470 --> 01:36:04,080
everything up

2087
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:07,669
but it is

2088
01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:10,639
so far to date the only scientifically

2089
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:13,600
meaningful theory

2090
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:16,960
that accommodates not only the

2091
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,159
world of the supernatural

2092
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:21,760
and the world

2093
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:27,750
but also

2094
01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:32,470
principles

2095
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:36,000
it encompasses it incorporates it into a

2096
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:43,590
that not only explains paranormal

2097
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:48,550
but it also

2098
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:51,280
gives an explanation for

2099
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,360
uh mysteries in physics like dark matter

2100
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:57,280
and dark energy

2101
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,159
dark energy is supposed to be the energy

2102
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:02,800
that is continuing to expand the

2103
01:37:10,629 --> 01:37:08,310
in opposition

2104
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:10,639
to the gravity

2105
01:37:15,189 --> 01:37:13,760
that exists in visible matter inside the

2106
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:15,199
universe

2107
01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:17,760
that should be pulling

2108
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:20,239
the edges of the universe back in on

2109
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:26,149
so they just like dark matter they made

2110
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,040
up an imaginary substance called dark

2111
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:31,360
energy

2112
01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:32,880
and that's the force that's supposed to

2113
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:34,719
be pushing out the

2114
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:37,360
outside the universe nobody's seen it

2115
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:45,990
according to my theory

2116
01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:49,040
the universe is still emerging from the

2117
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:55,910
in other words the theory has caused me

2118
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:58,320
to be able to make

2119
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,199
a one state a one sentence statement

2120
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:03,440
about the universe

2121
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,520
that applies to all of it

2122
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:08,560
that the universe is an expression of

2123
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:10,960
materialized

2124
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:14,480
and materializing

2125
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,590
if the process wasn't still occurring

2126
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:25,189
we wouldn't be able to explain

2127
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:28,480
paranormal phenomena

2128
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:31,040
the process wasn't still

2129
01:38:34,629 --> 01:38:32,320
occurring

2130
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:34,639
we couldn't explain

2131
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:38,080
the gravitational lensing that we see in

2132
01:38:48,149 --> 01:38:46,470
without needing a material

2133
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:48,159
to explain it

2134
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:51,440
but if the universe is still emerging

2135
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:54,639
then it is still creating the same kind

2136
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,840
of space-time

2137
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:58,800
bubble

2138
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:01,440
that occurred at its very beginning

2139
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:05,119
where space and time had a gravitational

2140
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:06,639
field

2141
01:39:11,109 --> 01:39:09,119
without having any material content in

2142
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:11,119
it yet

2143
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,040
um that's another dirty little secret

2144
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,199
uh about physics

2145
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,440
this is why einstein

2146
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:21,840
pounded his head to try to come up with

2147
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:23,199
a structure

2148
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,119
in space-time

2149
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:27,840
that could generate a gravitational

2150
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:29,360
field

2151
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:32,960
without having the presence

2152
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:35,280
of physical matter to bend the space to

2153
01:39:40,149 --> 01:39:37,679
make the field

2154
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:40,159
that's why he and dr rosen came up with

2155
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:42,719
the einstein rosen bridge

2156
01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:45,679
it defines a structure in space time

2157
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:48,239
that can have a gravitational field

2158
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:50,639
without having adjacent

2159
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:56,550
and so

2160
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:59,040
if the universe is still emerging from

2161
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:00,400
the big bang

2162
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:03,119
which i believe it is there is no reason

2163
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:04,639
to invent

2164
01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:06,400
dark matter

2165
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:08,480
and there's no reason to invent dark

2166
01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:10,800
energy

2167
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:17,510
i'm sorry go ahead no no i i thought you

2168
01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,080
were you were pausing the positive

2169
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:22,560
finishes up but please go ahead

2170
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:25,119
well this guy please shut up i gotta go

2171
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:26,639
to the can man

2172
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:28,719
no that wasn't it you paused long enough

2173
01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:31,440
for me thinking that i need to interject

2174
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:32,719
uh

2175
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,040
another thing that it explains is the

2176
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:37,199
two slit experiment

2177
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,280
and it provides you know it provides a

2178
01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:42,639
solid

2179
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:44,080
model

2180
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,520
for

2181
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,600
what um

2182
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,679
david finkelstein

2183
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:51,520
physicist able to think david

2184
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,280
finkelstein called coherent

2185
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:55,840
superpositions

2186
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,239
which is what he i call this super

2187
01:41:02,950 --> 01:41:00,159
geometric structure

2188
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:02,960
that is non-physical but exists above

2189
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,280
the physical and is part of the physical

2190
01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:07,600
david baum these are mainstream

2191
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:10,000
physicists they're not uh

2192
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:12,639
sucralose over on ancient aliens you

2193
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:13,679
know

2194
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:16,480
these are mainstream famous physicists

2195
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:20,480
uh um david baum

2196
01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:23,280
called it implicat order

2197
01:41:29,270 --> 01:41:27,040
that gave rise to the explicate order of

2198
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:29,280
the physical universe

2199
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:33,040
if you get into parapsychology

2200
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:35,760
and you run into the writings of edgar

2201
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:37,600
cayce

2202
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:44,950
so there's been many names for it

2203
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:47,920
you know if you go into christianity

2204
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:50,080
and look at the mystical aspects of it

2205
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,669
that

2206
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,760
the universe was created when god

2207
01:42:02,390 --> 01:41:59,520
created the universe

2208
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:02,400
it was a void and formless mass it was

2209
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:04,800
like raw clay

2210
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:06,400
and then

2211
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:09,280
he spoke the word

2212
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:11,920
he spoke the order the information the

2213
01:42:18,830 --> 01:42:15,520
structure let there be light

2214
01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:18,840
and it took the pre-creational clay and

2215
01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:22,400
materialized it into a definite form

2216
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:23,679
that had

2217
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,040
spatial and temporal dimensions

2218
01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:29,520
the theory joins all of these works

2219
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:30,960
together

2220
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:34,480
uh including parapsychology and

2221
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:39,350
and so anyway that's my

2222
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:43,520
that's my story and i'm sticking to it

2223
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,320
well thomas i'm certainly very happy to

2224
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,400
to be able to see you coming up in april

2225
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:50,239
i know it's been a long time

2226
01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:52,000
and this time i'm doing all the

2227
01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:54,000
interviews like this and i'll be doing

2228
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,159
all those ahead of time so i'm not going

2229
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:58,719
to be literally like super busy like i

2230
01:43:00,950 --> 01:43:00,159
used to be from

2231
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,960
six

2232
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,719
when i'm at these conferences i get to

2233
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:05,199
about to couple days ahead of time you

2234
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,800
know with the crew and setting up and

2235
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:08,719
all of that so it's usually from like

2236
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:12,800
six a.m until pretty much maybe 10 11 is

2237
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:13,760
when i'm

2238
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,159
kind of finally done doing what needs to

2239
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,040
get done and that each day that includes

2240
01:43:22,229 --> 01:43:20,639
going back to the conference center

2241
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,239
messing up with anything

2242
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:23,920
if there's any issues with the audio

2243
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:25,840
video then go back and do interviews and

2244
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:27,760
then finish that up go back and forth so

2245
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,840
anyway long story short i'm going to

2246
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:31,600
have time and so i'm really hoping and

2247
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:33,920
you and i can catch up because it's been

2248
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:36,719
what uh eight years so far

2249
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,760
oh it's been a while i haven't counted

2250
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:42,000
for 14. i've finally gotten over the

2251
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:43,679
pain of the uh

2252
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:47,520
after effects of the last symposium

2253
01:43:52,950 --> 01:43:49,840
but that's another story all together

2254
01:43:56,149 --> 01:43:52,960
but yeah and adnan according to the

2255
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:56,159
ufo conference uh website i have been

2256
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,480
granted the honor

2257
01:44:02,229 --> 01:44:00,800
of being the very first speaker on the

2258
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,239
roster

2259
01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:04,320
i don't know i think somebody had

2260
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:07,679
something to do with that

2261
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:09,119
because you know i'm part of the

2262
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:11,600
scheduling team too so if you want to

2263
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:14,880
ask me the reason why you know i thought

2264
01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:21,590
all right well i'm i'm honored to kick

2265
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:23,920
off the off the program

2266
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:25,840
uh so that uh

2267
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:26,880
uh

2268
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:33,520
intermingle with it with the crowd right

2269
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:35,840
and i'll try and i'll try not to harm

2270
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:39,440
anybody's brain doing it

2271
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:40,639
well um

2272
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:41,840
so

2273
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,960
along with myself uh most of you that

2274
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:46,560
would like to attend you'll be able to

2275
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:49,840
see and and at least uh in the hallways

2276
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:52,800
chat up with with thomas a little bit

2277
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:55,679
if you uh choose to attend the the ozark

2278
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:58,320
ufo conference that's coming up april

2279
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,960
8th till till 10th as i mentioned in the

2280
01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:03,679
very beginning there are no restrictions

2281
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,199
and so um they've just now really become

2282
01:45:12,470 --> 01:45:10,320
begun to just heavily advertise and uh

2283
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:12,480
just sending out as much information

2284
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:14,320
about it because the

2285
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:16,560
the company has received a lot of calls

2286
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:19,199
and a lot of people um wanted to come

2287
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:20,800
but it was under the stipulation that

2288
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:23,280
there was no restrictions and that was

2289
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,600
the intention from the get-go we they

2290
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:27,040
were just basically waiting from the

2291
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:29,440
hotel to see if they were going to

2292
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:31,760
change anything or if the town of eureka

2293
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,520
springs was going to

2294
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,920
impose something and as of right now it

2295
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:37,600
doesn't look like it and

2296
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:39,920
if anything it's going the opposite way

2297
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:40,719
so

2298
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:41,760
um

2299
01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:43,119
as i mentioned also in the very

2300
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,920
beginning if you comment in the comment

2301
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:48,000
section and like this video

2302
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:49,920
make sure you leave

2303
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:53,040
a hashtag ozark2022

2304
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:54,880
the exact spelling is in the description

2305
01:46:02,390 --> 01:45:57,679
as well so that that way come march 9th

2306
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:02,400
i would be randomly selecting a video

2307
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:04,320
leading all the way from i think when i

2308
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:05,840
first started about

2309
01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:09,040
last week i think yeah last week

2310
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:10,880
all the way up until ninth i will be

2311
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:14,239
picking a random video and then doing a

2312
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,280
random selection of whoever had the

2313
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:19,440
hashtag in the comment section so you

2314
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,760
can win two tickets to the eureka

2315
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:23,360
springs

2316
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:27,679
ozark ufo conference so um

2317
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:30,239
in the description also thomas's website

2318
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:32,960
link to his books on amazon and barnes

2319
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,000
and noble

2320
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:36,960
please do check that out as well so next

2321
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:38,960
week i'm going to have another guest

2322
01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:41,600
nick pope he's going to be on next

2323
01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:44,639
friday at seven so basically i'm hoping

2324
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:46,560
to get through all the speakers before

2325
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:48,639
the conference actually starts

2326
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:52,239
so um thomas thank you very much i'm

2327
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:54,480
really looking forward to to seeing you

2328
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,639
again and again thank you for tonight

2329
01:47:01,270 --> 01:46:58,560
everyone else watching i really